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Amelserru_halqu
July 7th, 2005, 12:43 AM
Forgive me as that I know so very little but, as I have been reading I have read about the energy that we all have, a personal energy I suppose. I have read about people stealing other's energy and I was thinking that since there is little harm done, at least that I can see through my ignorant eyes, that only enough energy is taken to weaken the victim's will enough that they may be bent to another's wiill. I suppose that if one were skilled in such an art and took it further gradually there would be less and less energy sustaining their will and perhaps consciousness that they would fall unconcious and taken farther would probably kill them. My question, I suppose, is could one take another's energy and in draining them draw energy needed to cast their spell? If so would completely draining them make said spell more powerful, would this even work? would it work on any spell or just ones fueled by hate and loss? and if so why?

Could someone help me out here because with all this wondering my head hurts, and I just can't seem to find the answers, of course this could be due to my own incompitence, Thanks.

Amelserru_halqu

Mab
July 7th, 2005, 02:06 AM
JMHO---no spell is going to work--at least not properly---when it is based even partly in energy taken from another by force. Even a little energy taken from someone can cause that person to feel fatigued, depressed, etc--not to mention emotional/psychological issues.... Bending someone to your will by force is--again IMO--unethical & just plain old wrong. If you (the generic "you") want to make a spell stronger, why not just ask someone to help you & lend or donate their energy to your cause?

I just don't go in for "vigilante justice", no matter what disguise it's wearing.

Fallen Angel
July 7th, 2005, 05:57 AM
I agee with mab. NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE TAKE ANOTHERS ENERGY. It isn't good and those who do are called psychic vampires. See not a good thing. Indeed if you take enough energy you could kill them, just as if you take enough blood. Taking a little energy is as dangerous as taking blood, too much can kill and it will leave you feeling so drained. Not to mention the karmatic repercussions. Taking anoers energy without permission will lead to karmatic punishments.

No spell will work with stolen energies. This is because those energies are not properly braced for the act and I doubt there is a way to make a persons energies blend with yours when they're stolen.

When doing spell work you call down energies, not steal them. This way all energies given are given so freely. You channel these through you which blends and makes the energies compatable and then you cast. This is why beginers spells take a while to become fully powerful, because you need to learn how to handle that power in you before you can send it out. stolen energies can not be channeled as they want to go back to where they should be. Trying to channel them could actually hurt you.

This is why psychic vampires consume the energies, not actually work with them. I don't think there is a name for those foolish enough to try to cast with stolen energies. It's wrong AD dangerous to you both.

Want more power, train or do group work.

Mouse
July 7th, 2005, 07:07 AM
I think, ethics aside, that yes it would work. the more energy the stronger the spell. the act of draining someone elses energy uses some of your own as well, so you couldnt go on forever. but it is the same as drawing energy from the earth or sun or from a crystal. Energy, no matter where you take it from, is just energy. You have to programme it. It should therefore work on just about any spell. You can steal enough energy to kill someone. It is very wrong... but karma will bite you on the ass if you try it :)

However as fallen angel said, you couldn't channel the energies, (or this is how i understand it) you'd have to hold them all unitll you had collected them, then shape and send them.

Amelserru_halqu
July 7th, 2005, 09:18 AM
Thank you all for the information and to put your mind at ease I really don't want to kill or harm anyone in this life, and like I said just wondering, and I thank you for your warnings.

Amelserru_halqu

Kendrah
July 7th, 2005, 10:34 AM
It would work, it's just a little more of a headahe then I'd want to deal with. In certain circumstances, I'd use someones energies that I stole against them. However, most people tend to give away power and energy in bucket fulls. Might as well use it.

DebLipp
July 7th, 2005, 12:08 PM
Your technical problem is that you're doing two spells; one to steal the energy and one to do whatever the spell is. In between, you have to figure out how to flow from one spell to the next without energy leakage. It's just terribly impractical.

Energy for spells can be derived from all sorts of sources. If the sources are voluntary, then you don't need a spell to steal them and can devote all your attention to the primary spell/purpose.

Xentor
July 7th, 2005, 06:14 PM
Draining someone's energy can seriously hurt them. However you are in luck. "Magic" isn't an allowed murder weapon in most of the western civilisations.

Kendrah
July 8th, 2005, 11:30 AM
Draining someone's energy can seriously hurt them. However you are in luck. "Magic" isn't an allowed murder weapon in most of the western civilisations.

How is "magic" not an allowed murder weapon in most of the wester civilizations?

DebLipp
July 8th, 2005, 12:02 PM
How is "magic" not an allowed murder weapon in most of the wester civilizations?
I think he means, not considered a murder weapon in a court of law; not admissable as evidence, that sort of thing.

Xentor
July 8th, 2005, 12:31 PM
Yup, that's it.