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    I was thinking of that as well I just wanted to see if thee were any other known ideas besides Brahman. And wow I never knew that Kemeticism had that idea as well.
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    I think the Cosmos itself is a being, and the gods exist within it (as do we).

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    There are a class of deities called the 'Primeval Ones' in ancient Hurrian and Hittite beliefs..

    they were thought to be the first generation of gods that came out of the Cosmos and were the fathers/mothers of the younger generations..which was also a metaphor for the forming of the Universe itself.
    Most of the oldest deities are remote and were praised for their great wisdom and long life...i suppose they were more transcendant..
    it's the younger gods that are the active deities in the myths and were most important in cult and daily life...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selah View Post
    Didn't know where to put this, but...

    I was thinking today of something while at work (we were dead, so I could actually be chill and gather my thoughts lol). People...or at least the people I have come across seem to think that Gods are the highest beings in the known universe. But, I was thinking, what if there is a being that is even higher than that? What would it be? (Assuming you believe in God or Gods to begin with).

    Did any of that make sense? If not I'll elaborate but if so, let me know what you think!
    That is exactly what I believe. I believe that there all God/desses emanate from one supreme being, which I refer to as the Divine. I think of the Cosmos as the Divine.
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    "...You are a child of the universe;
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    you have a right to be here.

    And whether or not it is clear to you,
    no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

    Therefore be at peace with God,
    whatever you conceive Him to be..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaedema View Post
    From my perspective...yes there is something/someone beyond gods/goddesses. It is unknowable, but I believe there is evidence of its existence through Balance and the opposites we know so well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    The Greeks had/have a philosophy about there being The One, who is kind of like a God bigger and greater than all the other gods. The One however, is pretty much unknowable to us and must be filtered down through one of the gods. Plato spoke about this in some of his writings. Don't quote me on this as I'm probably misrepresenting it!
    Quote Originally Posted by Erebos View Post
    I think the Cosmos itself is a being, and the gods exist within it (as do we).
    This pretty much represents how I view things.
    "...You are a child of the universe;
    no less than the trees and the stars;
    you have a right to be here.

    And whether or not it is clear to you,
    no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

    Therefore be at peace with God,
    whatever you conceive Him to be..."

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    I'm open to believing there's a being above the gods, but then, I don't hold the gods in very high regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selah View Post
    Didn't know where to put this, but...

    I was thinking today of something while at work (we were dead, so I could actually be chill and gather my thoughts lol). People...or at least the people I have come across seem to think that Gods are the highest beings in the known universe. But, I was thinking, what if there is a being that is even higher than that? What would it be? (Assuming you believe in God or Gods to begin with).

    Did any of that make sense? If not I'll elaborate but if so, let me know what you think!
    Well, if it is true that there is more than one universe, than whatever is in charge of our universe would be above whoever runs our planet. And whatever made the multiverse would be above him ... repeat this pattern until you get to "everything". Or until your head hurts.

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    This idea is similar in a lot of cultures actually. As someone else mentioned, in Hinduism it's Brahman and all gods and goddesses are reflections of It (It being the divine stream of consciousness and not necessarily the god Brahman Himself) and in most Kemetic views, not just Kemetic Orthodoxy, but historically speaking, all gods and goddesses are reflections of Atum/Tem and/or even Nun/Nu, depending on the dynasty you're looking at. In Blackfoot culture, gods and goddesses are all reflections of Apistotooki, the divine stream of consciousness.

    Then there's the monist view on things which is all gods and goddesses across all pantheons are reflections of One Source Who divides Itself into different deities so that we as humans have a better personal and cultural connection with It.
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    The only group of beings that are quite clearly above the Gotds are . . . . . .
    the MW Administration. They wield the mighty hammer of qutnlisa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarmaKanik View Post
    The only group of beings that are quite clearly above the Gotds are . . . . . .
    the MW Administration. They wield the mighty hammer of qutnlisa.
    All praise the sacred banhammer!

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