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    Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust?

    You are going to die.
    Yes, YOU. Maybe tomorrow, maybe in a hundred years... but at
    some point, maybe when you least expect it, the holy temple of
    the body will no longer be a viable vessel of the spirit. It will
    be a junkyard of meat and wires.
    Meat spoils.
    Forever fraught with social and religious prescriptions and taboos,
    disposal of our bodies after death is considered by most too
    morbid for polite conversation. Too many grieving families find
    themselves left with the grizzly task of making arrangements
    for their dearly-departed, ignorant of the deceased party's final
    wishes.
    What are YOUR final wishes? If you were to die tomorrow, what
    would you like done with your body? It's easy to shrug it off, saying
    you don't really care one way or another... but if you don't
    decide, and make your wishes known... someone else will have
    to decide for you.
    Last edited by asamananara; April 2nd, 2004 at 04:53 AM.



    I kneel in thanksgiving before thy alter, O Gloried Ones, and sing thee praise!
    Truely thou art worthy of devotion!
    Thy blessings surround and sustain me! I am filled with thy virtues, and rejoice:
    Truely my life is but testament to thy glory!
    Blessed be, above and below, to all, to one, and to Thee!

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    I'm 26 and I've had plans to be cremated for a few years now. I've named one person and an alternate (in case the original person is unable) to spread my ashes over my favorite forest from a natural bridge nearby. I've also made arrangements for the care of my children, and I have a general will for my material things, along with a living will, and an organ donor card.

    I did all this when my kids were born, and I review and update it once a year. Call me paranoid, but I don't like leaving things up to chance.
    "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness, experiencing itself, subjectively. There is no such thing as death; life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather!"
    - Bill Hicks, 1961 - 1993

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    Ideally, I would like to be left where I fall, my bones whitened
    by the elements. However, unless I disapear alone in the wilderness,
    I'm not likely to get my wish. Alternately, I would prefer
    burial in the paleolithic style- my naked body covered in ochre,
    intered in the fetal position with my ritual tools, a bowl of
    grain, and a flask of water. I refuse to be embalmed, or undergo
    any reconstructive cosmetics. The details are stipulated in my living
    will, and my family have agreed to abide by them to the best of their
    ability.



    I kneel in thanksgiving before thy alter, O Gloried Ones, and sing thee praise!
    Truely thou art worthy of devotion!
    Thy blessings surround and sustain me! I am filled with thy virtues, and rejoice:
    Truely my life is but testament to thy glory!
    Blessed be, above and below, to all, to one, and to Thee!

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    I've always wanted to see the world, so I've decided that when I die, I want to be cremated and my ashes given to my surviving family. I'd want them to go travelling on whatever money I leave behind, and leave a little of my ashes in all the coutries they visit, at the most spectacular place they can find.
    I figure that way that if I don't get to see the world before I die, I get to travel all over in spirit.

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    I certainly don't think you're paranoid, Dextra.. responsible
    and considerate, yes. It's important for people to be aware
    of the realities of their mortality, and to prepare the way for
    their survivors.



    I kneel in thanksgiving before thy alter, O Gloried Ones, and sing thee praise!
    Truely thou art worthy of devotion!
    Thy blessings surround and sustain me! I am filled with thy virtues, and rejoice:
    Truely my life is but testament to thy glory!
    Blessed be, above and below, to all, to one, and to Thee!

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    I have no desire to be embalmed either. My grandfather was an undertaker, and I know a bit about what goes on with that. Also, I don't want to be buried. I'm extremely claustrophobic. I explained that to someone, and they said "Why would it matter? You're going to be dead. How is being incinerated any better?"

    One of my spirit animals is a phoenix *points at banner*. In this life I've gone through many transformations and rebirths, and being cremated would be the final one for this life. Plus I feel like cemetaries are overcrowded enough as it is. Here in Kentucky, some of the more crowded ones have gotten in trouble for "grave shifting", as in moving graves, or removing headstones and re-selling the plots. I take up enough space being alive. Once I'm out of this life, I have no need for my body anymore, so there's no sense in preserving it.
    "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness, experiencing itself, subjectively. There is no such thing as death; life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather!"
    - Bill Hicks, 1961 - 1993

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    I want to be buried, and a tree planted over me so that I may nourish it and return to the Earth from whence came.
    However... lets face it, if you're dead you're not about to see what happens, so why worry about it? Better I think to let your family do what would give them most comfort.

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    No embalming, cremated as quickly as possible, and my ashes scattered at Stonehenge, or in York...maybe half at each...

    many thanks to Cloakofstars9 for the beautiful banner

    I heed not that my earthly lot, hath little of earth in it;
    That years of love have been forgot, in the hatred of a minute.
    I mourn not that the desolate, are happier, sweet, than I;
    But that you sorrow for my fate...whom am a passer-by.
    E.A.Poe.




    cats steal my braincells while I sleep

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    This is a topic I feel very strongly about, much to the dismay of my mother, who hates to hear me talk of it.
    I want every last peice of me used for whatever good purpose there is. Any organs are to be donated. The rest of me can go to science. Whatever is leftover is to be cremated and scattered over a body of water. The Earth is having a hard enough time supporting the living, I don't need to be taking up space when I am dead.
    Dextra, you are so smart- I don't have a will nor life insurance. They have been on my "to- do" list for quite a while, but sadly, it is real easy to over look them.

    Somewhat off topic: Does anyone know of an online "will maker" or computer program that would be considered legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asamananara
    You are going to die.
    Yes, YOU. Maybe tomorrow, maybe in a hundred years... but at
    some point, maybe when you least expect it, the holy temple of
    the body will no longer be a viable vessel of the spirit. It will
    be a junkyard of meat and wires.
    Meat spoils.
    Forever fraught with social and religious prescriptions and taboos,
    disposal of our bodies after death is considered by most too
    morbid for polite conversation. Too many grieving families find
    themselves left with the grizzly task of making arrangements
    for their dearly-departed, ignorant of the deceased party's final
    wishes.
    What are YOUR final wishes? If you were to die tomorrow, what
    would you like done with your body? It's easy to shrug it off, saying
    you don't really care one way or another... but if you don't
    decide, and make your wishes known... someone else will have
    to decide for you.
    I'm all set in that department. Thanks!

    Are you ok? I don't remember reading many of your posts before so I'm not quite sure if you're just throwing out a topic for discussion or if there is something troubling you.

    I certainly don't mean to intrude if it's the latter but if you need or want to talk feel free to PM me.


    Z
    For those who believe there is no need for miracles, for those who doubt no miracle is ever enough.

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