Where do I start??!

[[V]]

Whatsup everyone Im Verdelet.

This is my first time checking out any kind of Magick related site.

I learned about energy and all that jazz through psionics. After practicing psionics for a while, I realize it is very limited.

I can turn a foil wheel on a needle no problem.

However, recently I learned about this thing called Universal Energy & how commanding it could procure much more impressive results.

All I know, is psionics is about controlling your internal energy & Magick controls the Universal Energy.

I am fairly good with controlling my own internal energy & I can only manifest very small changes with it.

I practice QiGong every day, and it was probably one of the best things I could have done for myself. I used to be a psi-vampire until I practiced with QiGong which VASTLY improved my internal energy & I no longer have the need to vamp. (yaay).

But anyways, I have always been a little uncomfortable with the magick approach because the idea of rituals, spells, candles & all these crazy gods just seemed too far fetched and unnecessary. I believe absolutely anything is attainable through intent & energy. I never could grasp how rituals would access any mechanics of these processes.

Anyways, doing some quick reading I have a vague understanding of how universal energy works & something about balance = real important.

Given my background, where would I start in this massive field?
I want to learn how to control the universal energy. & I dont fully understand how balance works. I am a very open minded person.

Please help me out, thanks!

[Gladeflower]

welcome, sounds interesting. have you read books on the topic before? or self learned? How is the feeling when moving energies i wonder?

[[V]]

Most of what I know I learned from reading around on the internet & just practicing on my own.
What does moving energy feel like?
Well for me its just a a matter of flexing my energetic body & I Have no idea how to even begin to explain it.

[Hamadryade]

It is sounding as if, perhaps, you are seeking to create greater change in your life than you have been able to so far. I understand you disdain of ritual and dieties and so forth and while those things work for some, they don't work for everyone. Ritual is more about accessing that part of the mind that lets you use the energy, so if you can already do that, perhaps ritual will just amplify the energy at you disposal. I would suggest a lot of reading. I have a lot of books and they have a lot of ideas, some I really like and they work well, and some I just roll my eyes at the seeming stupidity. It's about exposing yourself to new ideas and forms of thought. Keep in mind that one of the rule of magick is it almost never works the same way for any two people. Do what feels right, and then enjoy the ride I hope you find what you're seeking.

[[V]]

so far I understand that the magick is controlled through a belief system.
Most of what I've been reading requires me to subscribe to beliefs that I don't see myself following through with.

I love the idea behind sigil Magick.

I just read a short book on Chaos magick & that sounds like something I can get on board with.

But, which beliefs should I pursue? What book could I start with that will help me build a model to use Magick where my psychism will really benefit.

My current Model allows me to create energetic constructs to preform whatever task I want.

My goal is to control the universal energy and create bigger changes.
By bigger changes, I mean manifest certain situations in my life (love, wealth, etc all that jazz). But I would be lying if I ignored the fact that I seriously want to learn how to move larger objects with my mind (IE. a chair) I have grown bored with moving a psi-wheel - dosnt serve me any real purpose, other than confirm for me beyond a reasonable doubt that such abilities are possible.

Right now my model of energy is pretty easy. No complicated rules and history to it.

From what I understand, when you have a belief system with a LOT of detail and intricate rules and such - when you learn that you are effectively creating a system that you can PUT energy into. The more there is to learn about this system, the more energy capacity it has => the greater the magikal product.

Should I really be focusing on creating a new magick belief system, or should I be trying to expand my current model of energy to allow access to universal energy.

Any suggestions and pointers would be great, thanks.

[Lunacie]

Hello, [V], welcome to MW.

Practice is more likely to give you more consistent and better results than where you draw your energy from. Energy is basically energy, the only difference between your personal energy and universal energy is that yours will tend to run out while universal energy will last a lot longer than you or I will be alive.

Why do you want to be able to move a chair? To prove something to yourself? You've already proved that you can move a pinwheel. To prove something to someone else? That's a pretty silly reason for wanting to be able to use energy/magic.

The most important thing you can do with energy/magic is to make improvements in your own life, or to help others perhaps by doing healing energy work. Sounds like you already understand that pretty well.

You are already having success with the way you're drawing and using energy. Why bother to learn a bunch of rules and recipes for working with energy? Unless you find it interesting and would like to practice a different way of working with energy. I was doing energy work for over a dozen years when I had a chance to be attuned as a Reiki worker, and although it didn't change a lot about how I access and work with energy, I did learn some new things.

I also took a metaphysical class, and being part of a group for me is great because others will come up with questions and ideas that I would not think of on my own. Guess I don't really have any advice for you, just putting in my two cents.

[CelticMoon11]

Some see ritual as 'mind keys' that allow you to access the built up energy surrounding various correspondences and social schemas to create change. I guess, the difference between having a picture of a stick figure car and the car itself. Thats a very jungian way to look at ritual workings. Others see it more as prayer to dieties to ask for assistance and some see it as 'setting off' the change of events, like setting up domino's and knocking the first one over.

It is very individualised and you will need to find what works for you.

[[V]]

Originally Posted by Lunacie

Hello, [V], welcome to MW.

Practice is more likely to give you more consistent and better results than where you draw your energy from. Energy is basically energy, the only difference between your personal energy and universal energy is that yours will tend to run out while universal energy will last a lot longer than you or I will be alive.

Why do you want to be able to move a chair? To prove something to yourself? You've already proved that you can move a pinwheel. To prove something to someone else? That's a pretty silly reason for wanting to be able to use energy/magic.

The most important thing you can do with energy/magic is to make improvements in your own life, or to help others perhaps by doing healing energy work. Sounds like you already understand that pretty well.

You are already having success with the way you're drawing and using energy. Why bother to learn a bunch of rules and recipes for working with energy? Unless you find it interesting and would like to practice a different way of working with energy. I was doing energy work for over a dozen years when I had a chance to be attuned as a Reiki worker, and although it didn't change a lot about how I access and work with energy, I did learn some new things.

I also took a metaphysical class, and being part of a group for me is great because others will come up with questions and ideas that I would not think of on my own. Guess I don't really have any advice for you, just putting in my two cents.

Why do I wanna move a chair?
Say Im on a date, wouldnt it be sweet & polite to help situate a young lady....with my MIND!

haha jk.
But seriously, the reason I say chair is because I see that as an important milestone in my psychokinetic skills. Perhaps its a long shot, but I invested so much time and effort into learning how to move a pinwheel it only makes sense to keep perusing this particular skill. Is this silly? Nothing is "silly" in my world.

And yes, I want to use magick to attract wealth and love into my life.
But also the small things. Like using magick for orchestrate little convenient situations immediately, or help me solve a quick dilemma and stuff like that. Just practical applications, not just the big pictures.

Hmm, I am not so much interested in the healing aspect of energy. Im a pretty healthy guy, all my friends are young & healthy - this aspect dosnt strike any chords at this point in my life.

However, I do practice QiGong for the sake of my own health, energy flow, and to keep myself from turning into a vampire again lol.

When my skills are peaking (This is achieved from channeling for 4-5 hours straight) and I am hyper sensitive to energy - what happens is I can literally see my energy balls once I make the dense enough. They are always a light translucent blue color.

I can hold them and tell them what to do. The coolest thing I was able to do, was control a daddy long-leg spider in my room.

These kinds of things amuse me & I love them. However, I can rarely procure such results.

My skills as a psychic seemed to have plateaued. I feel like the next step would be to learn to control the energies around me.

I really have no idea how to do that. Every site I go to pretty much leaves me with statements like "Universal Energy can be controlled using magick techniques". And after thoroughly trying to research magick, Im left with the conclusion that magick is about controlling other external energies via belief systems, while using 'belief' as a tool.

All this is so confusing to me, because I avoided that approach for this long.

The way I move energy is.. I simply feel it, then move it. Its just a matter of moving different limbs and flexing different limbs on my energetic body.

I can't quite seem to figure out how to 'feel' the universal energy. I know if I can feel it, I can control it. I can draw from trees and such. But in order for me to use that energy, I have to draw it, then internalize it.

Then Im back to where I started. I am limited by my body's energy capacity.

When I say I want to control the universal energies, I mean - I want to be able to give the energy in an area an intent, or a task - without internalizing it.

Is this even possible? Anyone know of some techniques to do this?
I guess in a nutshell it would look like... me asking a tree to do me a favor.

I hope this is making sense

[Lunacie]

Originally Posted by [V]

Why do I wanna move a chair?
Say Im on a date, wouldnt it be sweet & polite to help situate a young lady....with my MIND!

haha jk.
But seriously, the reason I say chair is because I see that as an important milestone in my psychokinetic skills. Perhaps its a long shot, but I invested so much time and effort into learning how to move a pinwheel it only makes sense to keep perusing this particular skill. Is this silly? Nothing is "silly" in my world.

And yes, I want to use magick to attract wealth and love into my life.
But also the small things. Like using magick for orchestrate little convenient situations immediately, or help me solve a quick dilemma and stuff like that. Just practical applications, not just the big pictures.

Hmm, I am not so much interested in the healing aspect of energy. Im a pretty healthy guy, all my friends are young & healthy - this aspect dosnt strike any chords at this point in my life.

However, I do practice QiGong for the sake of my own health, energy flow, and to keep myself from turning into a vampire again lol.

When my skills are peaking (This is achieved from channeling for 4-5 hours straight) and I am hyper sensitive to energy - what happens is I can literally see my energy balls once I make the dense enough. They are always a light translucent blue color.

I can hold them and tell them what to do. The coolest thing I was able to do, was control a daddy long-leg spider in my room.

These kinds of things amuse me & I love them. However, I can rarely procure such results.

My skills as a psychic seemed to have plateaued. I feel like the next step would be to learn to control the energies around me.

I really have no idea how to do that. Every site I go to pretty much leaves me with statements like "Universal Energy can be controlled using magick techniques". And after thoroughly trying to research magick, Im left with the conclusion that magick is about controlling other external energies via belief systems, while using 'belief' as a tool.

All this is so confusing to me, because I avoided that approach for this long.

The way I move energy is.. I simply feel it, then move it. Its just a matter of moving different limbs and flexing different limbs on my energetic body.

I can't quite seem to figure out how to 'feel' the universal energy. I know if I can feel it, I can control it. I can draw from trees and such. But in order for me to use that energy, I have to draw it, then internalize it.

Then Im back to where I started. I am limited by my body's energy capacity.

When I say I want to control the universal energies, I mean - I want to be able to give the energy in an area an intent, or a task - without internalizing it.

Is this even possible? Anyone know of some techniques to do this?
I guess in a nutshell it would look like... me asking a tree to do me a favor.

I hope this is making sense

Well, moving a pinwheel or a chair may seem impressive, but not actually very helpful, eh? Still, both are good exercises to learn control.

For me, learning to draw energy from the Earth came first. I didn't actually draw much energy from the universe (Father Sky) until I took the Reiki class. There are a lot of visualizations for doing both of those - and visualization is a very good key for working with energy.

There are many energy rays, and you access any of them. Most people start with the glowing white light or the sparkling gold light, visualizing it flowing down over them as if they were standing under the shower or a waterfall, flowing over them. You can either open yourself by soaking in the energy as a sponge would soak in the water - or by opening your crown chakra and letting the light/energy flow into you and follow your meridian pathways through your body.

If that doesn't work for you, you might need to start with a more grounded energy and draw earth energy first. For that you sit on the ground or on the floor and visualize roots extending from the bottom of your feet, maybe also from the palms of your hands, down deep into the earth, drawing flowing blue or sparkling green energy up into your body. Or you can open your root chakra (just below your tailbone) and pull the energy in that way.

Either way, it's good to start by doing an energy exchange, sending back your own energy that has gotten messy or icky feeling and letting the fresh new energy replace it. Then draw some more energy and make an energy ball from it. Then start playing with the energy ball (construct) by making it hard and then soft, making it cold and then hot, making it dense and then opaque. This is all just a way of making yourself familiar with the new energy, making friends with it in a way of speaking. Because it will work for you much better when you are comfortable working with it.


I forgot to add - one the most helpful ways I've used energy was the very icy night when I drew on fire energy - sitting beside the floor vent when the furnace blower kicked on and began blowing warm air against me - I visualized my then-hubby's car sitting in the parking lot at work, covered in ice. I visualized the warm air melting the ice, espeically on the tires to give them the best traction possible for his drive home on icy roads. When he and his coworkers walked out of the plant a few minutes later, his little red car was sitting there in a puddle of water - no ice on it anywhere. While his coworkers had to turn on their defrosters and begin using their ice scrapers, he hopped in his car and drove away, grinning. Made it home safely, yay.

One more - I've also visualized the energy in a tornadic storm cell weaken, loosing it's clockwise spin. I feel I've brought several tornados down from an F2 or F3 level to an F1 level or weaker, or at least kept them from building into an even bigger and stronger tornado. Two years ago I got a LOT of practice doing that as we had more than a dozen tornados form in the county south of us. But when a monster storm attacked my home town more than 120 miles away, it was too big for me to do anything. The best I could do was use my energy to sense whether my family there had survived. Eleven people died, the tornado was wider than the town - 95% of the town was destroyed. But I could feel that my family were all still alive, so I just waited for daylight when my brother could drive far enough to get a signal for his cell phone and give me a call.

[Ailyn]

You start at the beginning! HAHAHA!!! I'm just messing, I feel like being belligerent (i know that's not the word i want to use, but its close) today.