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December 5th, 2008, 05:14 PM
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It should be pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain that if the debt increases there was NO SURPLUS. If there was a surplus the debt should have went down. Please explain to me why it didn't go down.
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December 5th, 2008, 07:20 PM
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And no a conservative electrical engineer's blog does not count.
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December 5th, 2008, 07:43 PM
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As you can see on this excel spreadsheet, the debt has grown EVERY year since 1969. So in 40 years the debt has gotten larger from the last year... and that includes EVERY year of the Clinton admin, including the year 2000 which was supposedly the year of the "surplus" In 1999 the Gross Federal Debt was: 5,605,523 In 2000 it was: 5,628,700 So as you can see, even in the alleged "surplus" year, the debt has grown. Thus, there was no "surplus". If you need more budget statistics check out the rest on this site: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy08/hist.html And as you can see, this is a .gov domain... So what do you have to say now?
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December 5th, 2008, 07:51 PM
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The GFD increased by only 23,177 (Im assuming thats billion). The surplus was 63 billion. That still leaves you with a surplus of 40 billion.
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[center]You see, none of us chose our end really. A king may move a man, a father may claim a son. But remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before the Gods you cannot say "but I was told by others to do thus" or that "virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that. One's capacity for justice makes Socialism possible. One's capacity for injustice makes Socialism necessary.
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December 5th, 2008, 08:22 PM
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“If you are going through hell, keep going." ~ Winston Churchill "If someone gets into your house, which would you rather have, a handgun or a telephone? You can call the police if you want, and they'll get there, and they'll take a picture of your dead body. But they can't get there in time to save your life. The first line of defense is you." ~ Tom Palmer "It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights – the "right" to education, the "right" to health care, the "right" to food and housing. That's not freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the rations of slavery – hay and a barn for human cattle." ~ Alexis De Tocquiville
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December 5th, 2008, 08:58 PM
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[center]You see, none of us chose our end really. A king may move a man, a father may claim a son. But remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before the Gods you cannot say "but I was told by others to do thus" or that "virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that. One's capacity for justice makes Socialism possible. One's capacity for injustice makes Socialism necessary.
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December 5th, 2008, 10:20 PM
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“If you are going through hell, keep going." ~ Winston Churchill "If someone gets into your house, which would you rather have, a handgun or a telephone? You can call the police if you want, and they'll get there, and they'll take a picture of your dead body. But they can't get there in time to save your life. The first line of defense is you." ~ Tom Palmer "It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights – the "right" to education, the "right" to health care, the "right" to food and housing. That's not freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the rations of slavery – hay and a barn for human cattle." ~ Alexis De Tocquiville Last edited by Laisrean; December 5th, 2008 at 10:51 PM.
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